“if God actually stood powerless before the majesty of man’s lordly will, there would be but little use to pray for Him to convert any one. It would then be more reasonable for us to direct our petitions to the man himself.”
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“if God actually stood powerless before the majesty of man’s lordly will, there would be but little use to pray for Him to convert any one. It would then be more reasonable for us to direct our petitions to the man himself.”
Posted in Bible Study, Calvinism, doctrines of grace, Indian River Baptist Church, tagged Bible Study, Calvinism, Doctrine, God, Gospel, Indian River Baptist Church, Predestination on November 6, 2012 | 1 Comment »
The election of sinners for salvation, that is…..courtesy of Nathan Pitchford’s categorized list of Scripture verses on the doctrines of God’s sovereign grace in saving sinners.
God elects [i.e. chooses, predestines, foreordains
A) His angels
1Ti 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
B) His peculiar people, Israel
Exo 6:7 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians.
Deu 7:6-8 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Deu 10:14-15 Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is. Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.
Psa 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
Isa 43:20-21 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen. This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.
C) Individuals to salvation
Psa 65:4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Rom 8:28-30 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Rom 9:10-24 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Rom 11:5-7 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
Eph 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Eph 1:11-12 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
1Th 1:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.
1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
2Th 2:13-14 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
D) Individuals to condemnation
Exo 4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Rom 9:17-18 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Rom 9:21-22 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
3. His motivation in election
A) His own good pleasure
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
B) The display of his glory
Isa 43:6-7 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Rom 9:22-24 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels
of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Eph 2:4-7 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
1Co 1:27-31 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
C) His special love
Deu 7:6-8 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
D) His foreknowledge
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Amo 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
Mat 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
1Co 8:3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained [Greek, “foreknown”] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
E) But not:
Deu 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Rom 9:11-13 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Rom 10:20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
1Cor 1:27-29 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence.
1Cor 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
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For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
This passage is one of those which provides great comfort – or at least should do so – for the Christian. It appears to be a rather clear, definitive statement on the assurance of salvation for the child of God. However, quite often, there is a disclaimer attached to this passage by the one expounding/exegeting it – which is what? This statement, in one form or another, is made:
Nothing can separate us from the love of God – except ourselves!
Huh? ”Nothing” doesn’t mean “nothing?” Evidently not, to some. ”Nothing” being a universal negative, does “nothing” mean “nothing?” Or is Paul speaking in hyperbole? Let’s take a look, beginning with a little logic.
A simple syllogism show one problem with the “except ourselves!” exposition:
Nothing can separate us from the love of God.
We can separate ourselves from the love of God.
Therefore, we are nothing.
Preposterous? Well, yes, but consistent with the “except ourselves’ thought, right? Let’s dig deeper.
What is the context of Paul’s statement stating that nothing can separate us from the love of God? Romans 8, where Paul has spoken on the sovereignty of God in in v. 28, where he says,
28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
If we were to back up further, we would see where Paul says the Romans have “received the Spirit of adoption as sons” in v. 15. The receipt of the Spirit – was this a gift? Yes, it was. What does the Bible say about gifts given by God? They are….irrevocable (Rom. 11:29). If this Spirit of adoption is given as a gift, is this giving irrevocable? Yes, it is. Those who receive the Spirit of adoption as sons are sons – irrevocably.
In Romans 8 Paul also, after saying what he says concerning adoption and the sovereignty of God, he then says this in vv. 29-30:
29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Who are these people? This group of people in 29-30 are the elect. Is there anyone ‘saved’ who exists outside this group? No. Reading backward helps here – every single person who is to be glorified (Paul uses the prophetic perfect here – past prediction of future events, speaking of these events as if they have already been accomplished) has been justified. Every single person who is justified has been called. Every single person who has been called has been predestined and every single person who has been predestined was foreknown by ‘he’ – God, from v. 28.
The Romans whom Paul describes in v. 15 as having received the Spirit of adoption as sons are included in this group – the elect – of vv. 29-30. Is every single person who is foreknown, predestined, called, justified and glorified in vv. 29-30 actually called, justified and glorified in time and space, having been foreknown and predestined in eternity (cf. Eph. 1:3-14)? Yes, they are. If one wishes to object here – think about it – who is saved outside of this group? Can one be saved who was never foreknown, never predestined, never called, never justified and never glorified? Is there anyone who receives the Spirit of adoption who is not foreknown, predestined, called, justified and glorified? As Paul might say, “By no means!”
Earlier, we cited Romans 11:29 and the irrevocable gifts of God – however, that’s not the entirety of the thought. There is something else that is irrevocable in addition to the gifts of God – His calling. This is the “call” of v. 30. This is the “calling” which Peter tells the elect to confirm diligently in his second Epistle, chapter one, verse ten. Being an irrevocable gift, this call of Romans 11, expressed here in 8:30, assures the one who is called that he may know he is saved (1 John 5:13).
So far we have a people who have been adopted, who also fall into the group which is foreknown, predestined, called, justified and glorified. Is anyone ever removed from this group? No. No. They cannot be or the passage as plainly stated – and the irrevocability of God’s gifts – must be called into question, which we dare not. What else is said about these people?
Paul poses several questions beginning in verse 31 and he answers them as well for the reader. We will post these in question and answer format.
Q: What then shall we say to these things? What ‘things?” The ‘things Paul has just stated concerning adoption, the Spirit interceding (which we did not cover), foreknowledge, predestination, call, justification and glorification.
A: If God is for us, who can be against us? He answers the question with a question and the assumed answer to this question is “No one,” which he explains in the following questions and answers.
Q: He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? The assumed answer? ”Yes.”
Q: Who shall bring any charge against God’s elect? Paul uses courtroom imagery here – who dares to bring accusations of guilt against God’s elect people?
A: It is God who justifies. No one. Why? Who can overturn God’s declaration that the elect, upon faith, are just and no longer condemned to a death sentence?
Q: Who is to condemn? Who can pronounce a sentence of guilty upon the elect? No one. Why?
A: Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised— who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. There has already been One who has incurred the full punishment for the guilt of the elect – the “us” Paul refers to here. Christ bore the full weight of the punishment due the elect – there is no more penalty to be paid.
Paul now asks the questions that result in his statement in vv. 38-39:
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
So far Paul has asked three questions with an answer of “No one.” He continues the train here and we will see the answer is still the same: “No one.” Paul will actually expand the answer here from “No one,” to “No one and nothing.”
The question Paul asks concerns a person or people – “Who shall separate us…” Then he expands the question to include issues other than people – to nature, to life circumstances, to the spiritual realm and makes it all inclusive. The answer? Not yet. Paul cites Psalm 44, where the Psalmist writes of the people of God being made like sheep for the slaughter – but what is the context of Psalm 44? God’s people have rebelled and they are being rebuked by God – see 44:9, which says God has rejected them and 44:14, where they are said to be a laughingstock. Paul gives new meaning to this in applying the verse not to rebellious people but to the obedient children of God. He is saying the same fate awaits the obedient now as did the rebellious in Psalm 44. The elect here will suffer for their obedience at the hands of the pagans in the same way the rebellious children of Israel suffered at the hands of the pagans in Psalm 44.
Even knowing this, Paul’s answer to his own question is once again the same: “No one.” He says that in “all these things” the elect will conquer – and in fact will more than conquer. But how? Through him who loved us – “us” again being the elect). ”All these things” – what are they? They are the tribulations, the distresses, the persecutions, the famines, the nakedness, the dangers and the sword of verse 35, which will result in the sheep being slaughtered.
Because of this – Paul begins verse 38 with “For” – Paul is certain, sure that nothing – nothing – nothing in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Paul knew the society and culture in which these people lived. He knew that being a Christian brought with it hostility from pagans, which would manifest itself in many different ways. He knew there would be spiritual battles. He also knew he had to provide some pastoral advice in the form of a theological construct. Good theology and good doctrine is at its root “practical.” This was very practical to the Roman Christians and is also practical to us today and has been practical for almost 2,000 years since God breathed out these words through His Apostle.
If God has set His love on you and saved you, He will love you for eternity because he has loved you in eternity past. The assurance of our salvation is not based upon our love for God – it is based upon His love for us. As the Scripture says, we love Him because He first loved us. Paul wants to make it irrefutable here – those upon whom God has set His love cannot be separated from that love.
Can we separate ourselves from the love of God? No. Why not? because His love for His elect is such that He will take the necessary measures to ensure that His elect persevere in faith until the end. Praise God. Praise God he is a God of promises – the God of fulfilled promises. He loves me. He loves His children. And nothing can separate His children from that love – not even ourselves.
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From Jim McClarty, pastor of Grace Christian Assembly. See the bottom for a link to Jim’s free book, “By Grace Alone.”
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Hello Pastor Jim,
Recently I have been watching your videos on YouTube of your messages and sermons about the Sovereignty of God, Calvinism, predestination, and Reformed Theology.
I am greatly encouraged by the messages but still confused because of how I was raised. People in the church I attended said Calvinists do not evangelize and they [Calvinists] think people are robots with no free will to love God.
So here are my questions:
I understand your perplexity. It takes time to sort through the things you’ve been taught and separate traditions from valid doctrines. One of the most difficult aspects of learning and embracing what the Bible actually says is un-learning our traditions, assumptions, and presuppositions.
The things that you’ve written here are typical responses to Calvinism. For instance, people who do not know their church history will often claim that Calvinism inhibits evangelism. But nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is, some of the greatest revivals in history were led by Calvinists. The first universities planted on U.S. soil were established by Calvinists. Some of the most enduring missionary societies were established by Calvinists. So, the claim that Calvinists do not evangelize is mere folly.
The following bit of history is from my book By Grace Alone (which is available as a free pdf download on the GCA website), including a pericope from David Steinmetz’s bookCalvin in Context.
Calvinism, as it is commonly called, has a rich European history, but it finds its most striking influence during the foundation of these United States. Owing to Martin Luther’s commitment to reform, the church that bears his name was founded on the teaching of God’s election and determinate predestination. John Knox, the founder of the Presbyterian Church, held these doctrines. Early American history reveals that the vast majority of the Pilgrims who landed at Plymouth Rock were Calvinistic Presbyterians. The Congregationalist Churches of early America were once bound by these doctrines. And the original Baptists were avid predestinarians, which is why their modern counterparts advertise themselves as “Free-Will Baptists” to distinguish themselves from their ancestors.
This English Calvinist strain was strengthened by the Dutch Calvinists of New York and New Jersey, the German Reformed of Pennsylvania and Maryland, and the Scots-Irish Presbyterians who settled in the mid-Atlantic and southern colonies.While not all settlers in the New World were Protestant and not all Protestants were Calvinist, nevertheless there was from the very beginning a strongly Calvinist influence on American thought and institutions. Calvinists founded universities, pioneered the New England town meeting, insisted on the separation of powers in the federal government, played a prominent role in the movement for the abolition of slavery, and even promoted such characteristic institutions of frontier revivalism as ‘the anxious bench’ and the ‘camp-meeting’… In short, although Calvinism is not the only ingredient in American intellectual and religious history, it is such an important ingredient that no one can claim to understand American history and culture without some appreciation of its Calvinist heritage.
Or, let’s look at it this way: Calvinistic theology is drawn directly from biblical, Pauline doctrine. Of all the New Testament writers, Paul wrote the most complete arguments in favor of God’s absolute predestination and electing grace. Yet, Paul devoted his life, his wealth, his health, and everything in him to the work of evangelism. Calvinists follow Paul’s example. We teach everything that the Bible says and we do everything that the Bible instructs. We evangelize vigorously because we do not know who God’s elect are. And in reality, Calvinism inspires evangelism because we know that God’s word will not return to Him void; it will accomplish what God intends for it to accomplish.
So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, without accomplishing what I desire, and without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it. (Isa. 55:11)
So we preach the good news full of hope and expectation. By contrast, a person who believes in man’s autonomous free will has to fight the uphill battle of trying to convince someone to make a decision that is completely contrary to their nature and self-interest. The Calvinist is convinced that only the power of God changing a person from the inside will result in salvation. Therefore, the only tool we need is the truth of God’s word. And we know His word will be successful; His people are out there and they will respond. That takes a tremendous weight of pressure off of our shoulders and places responsibility for salvation exactly where it belongs — in God’s hands.
As for the robot argument, this YouTube sermon may help: http://youtu.be/ZJTjBg-QJ78
Basically, when someone poses the “robot” argument (also known as the “that would make us puppets” argument), it’s evidence that they have a sub-biblical anthropology. They think human beings are essentially good, capable, and willing to follow God if you just give them sufficient inducement. But, the Bible says just the opposite. Psalm 53 and Romans 3 come to mind.
God has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men to see if there is anyone who understands, who seeks after God. Every one of them has turned aside; together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, not even one. (Psalm 53:2-3)
As it is written, “THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE. THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING, THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS; WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS; THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD, DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS, AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN. THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.” (Romans 3:10-18)
In the YouTube video, I reviewed the various New Testament passages that describe the human condition from God’s point of view. You mentioned previously that you have been taught that Calvinism eliminates man’s “free will to love God.” The truth is, the Bibleeliminates man’s free will to love God. Nowhere in the Bible are human beings spoken of as being willing and capable of loving God unless God Himself awakens and quickens them. Calvinism simply places the emphasis where it belongs — on God’s will instead of man’s.
Now, with that bit of introduction out of the way, let’s address each of your questions individually.
The short answer is: Yes.
All Christians agree, in essence, that God is in charge of the really large events. But the Bible also declares that God feeds the animals, hangs the stars, determines the days of every man’s life, and settles “the whole disposing” of things as minute as casting lots. In other words, anyone who says that God is not in charge of everything in His universe must be able to tell us exactly where the line of demarcation is. What things is God in charge of and what things are beyond His scope? Based on clear Scripture, I would inquire, what part of God’s creation does He restrict Himself from? And where is He absent?
The Bible declares that He is everywhere, has all knowledge, and even gives Himself the proper name “God Almighty.” So, if He has all the power, knows everything, and is everywhere, then there is nothing in His universe that escapes His grasp, is hidden from Him, or which He does not empower. Otherwise, we would have to argue that He is limited in His knowledge and presence, or that there is another power in His creation that is separate and distinct from Him. And that, biblically-speaking, is an impossible argument to win.
The term “freewill” has been utilized in Christian circles for so long that the concept is simply assumed to be true, despite the lack of clear biblical evidence. For instance, the only place in the entire Bible where the actual terminology “freewill” exists is as a type of Old Testament offering. But importantly, that word never shows up in the New Testament. Now that fact, in and of itself, does not automatically undermine the concept of free will. The word “Trinity” is also not in the New Testament, but the concept is plainly and repeatedly displayed. So, what we really have to determine is whether the concept of “free will choice,” as a part of the salvation process, is ever mentioned, implied, or stated in the New Testament.
Here are the facts: wherever the will of man is referred to in the Bible it is always in the negative. In other words, because human beings are sinful, their will is equally depraved and is therefore limited. To say it more simply, human beings cannot act outside of the confines of their nature.
My YouTube teaching video “Thinking About Free Will” may prove helpful in this regard. http://youtu.be/j3oSqbLDGxc
According to the Bible, our wills are limited by our inability –
Can the Ethiopian change his skin Or the leopard his spots? Then you also can do good who are accustomed to doing evil. (Jeremiah 13:23)
So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. (Matthew 7:17)
Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. (John 8:43)
…the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. (Romans 8:7-8)
And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit? If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest? (Luke 12:25-26)
There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. (Romans 3:11)
Given our inability to do good, choose God, or enable our will against its nature, salvation must be the result of grace on God’s part and never the result of the “free will” decisions of any human. And the Bible states that repeatedly and emphatically.
For He says to Moses, ‘I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.’ So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. (Romans 9:15-16)
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:12-13)
But, here’s the really essential point — if free will (as the modern church defines it) were indeed an essential element in salvation, then the passages that deal with salvation should actually mention it. But, they don’t. You can read through every portion of Scripture that deals with eternal salvation and you will find words like: predestination, election, and “according to His will.”
But never — never once, not a single time — will you read the word “freewill.”
That really ought to tell us something. The language and concept of freewill in salvation is glaring in its absence. So, why is it so popular among confessing evangelicals? Despite the textual evidence, human beings love the idea that they contribute something to their salvation. It just seems more “fair” that way. And, our egos being what they are, we want to insert ourselves into the process in some significant way so that we can assure ourselves on the basis of our own actions and behavior. It is, for lack of a better term, human nature. Corrupt, fallen, prideful, arrogant, rebellious human nature.
Now let me be clear. I am not denying that human beings have a will or that they make decisions. What I am saying is that the human will is not truly free in any libertarian sense. The human will is limited by our incapabilities, resulting from our sinfulness. The fact that we make choices does not prove that we can choose anything we would like. As Romans 3:11 says, we cannot simply choose to understand, nor can we choose to seek God. And that is a very serious limitation.
Also, whenever man’s “will” is referenced in the Bible, it is always in the negative. “You were not willing…” “You do always resist the Holy Spirit…” “You will not come…” etc. That is completely consistent with what the Bible teaches concerning man’s natural state. Sinful humans are free to sin. But no sinful human is free to do what is righteous, what is just, or what is holy. In fact, there is no man who does anything that is good. And there is no one who ever sought God.
And that leads us right back to the topic of Biblical Anthropology. The first tenet of Reformed Theology (the “T” in the tulip acrostic) is Total Depravity. If you start there, then the entire rest of the five points fall perfectly in line. But if you deny that humans are “dead in trespasses and sins” (Eph. 2:1), then you will end up advocating for human capability and wind up in direct opposition to the clear declarations of Scripture. It’s really just that simple.
I offered a brief reply to this statement earlier, but let me also offer a bit of audio wherein I addressed this very question:
The question of love is used as a “red herring” by those who oppose Calvinism. They assume that human beings are free to love God or not love God according to their own “free will.” But, as I wrote above, if the biblical description of mankind is accurate then no natural human being has the capacity to love God. In fact, they hate Him with a vengeance. They are referred to as His enemies:
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (Romans 5:10)
The biblical reality is that only after God quickens and enlightens a person can they truly love God. I get weary of hearing preachers say, “Only love that is freely given his genuine love! Calvinism says that God forces His love on us. Forced love is not real love.” Norman Geisler went so far as to say that Calvinism posits a form of “divine rape.”
“Irresistible force used by God on his free creatures would be a violation of both the charity of God and the dignity of humans. God is love. True love never forces itself on anyone. Forced love is rape, and God is not a divine rapist!” (Norman Geisler, “God knows all Things,” Predestination and Free Will, (ed.) David Basinger and Randall Basinger (IVP, 1986), p. 69 ).
What sad rhetoric such men have to stoop to in order to avoid what the Bible says. Again, the fact is that humans will never “freely” love God until God removes their hatred and enmity and puts His divine spirit within them. And, as I have argued openly and often, God is indeed irresistible in every aspect of His character and dealings with mankind. http://youtu.be/e9SiY4HAgNg
So, how does the aspect of love play into this? It is God’s divine and eternal love that resulted in the grace that saved fallen sinners like you and me. In response to that reality, and as a result of His quickening power, we loved Him. But, as in all things, God is the “first cause.” He does not love us in response to our love. We love Him because He first loved us.
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. (1John 4:7-11)
Don’t allow people to mischaracterize Calvinism and tell you that it limits evangelism, does damage to man’s free will, makes us robots and puppets, or reduces divine love to forced rape. I think you can see that those are all emotion-based arguments, not Biblical arguments. People are naturally suspicious and afraid of things they do not understand. I wish more of Calvinism’s critics would take the time to understand it before they begin criticizing it.
Grace and peace,
Jim Mc.
By Grace Alone is available via this link:http://www.salvationbygrace.org/uc/sub/docs/bygracealone.pdf
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From Sovereign Grace Audio Treasures, with many other worthwhile audio links.
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An attempt to cover Romans 9:1-26 in 45 minutes…..when that passage really requires several weeks.
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